JUN 1985 - #5 +-------------------------------------------+ <<-----<>----->> | | | L OOOO OOOO PPPPP | A LOOP FAMILY | L O O O O P P | INTEREST GROUP | L O O O O P P | NEWSLETTER | THE L O O O O PPPPP | | L O O O O P | <<-----<>----->> | L O O O O P | | LLLLL OOOO OOOO P | Victor L. Bennison | | 2 Georgetown Drive | SSSS CCCC OOOO OOOO PPPPP | Amherst, NH 03031 | S C O O O O P P | | S C O O O O P P | <<-----<>----->> | SSS C O O O O PPPPP | | S C O O O O P | 4 issues yearly | S C O O O O P | June, September | SSSS CCCC OOOO OOOO P | December, March | | +-------------------------------------------+ <<-----<>----->> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDITOR'S NOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are sad to learn that one of our subscribers has passed away. Rosalie Jean (Loop) Hamilton died unexpectedly of a massive stroke on May 12, 1985. Her obituary appears elsewhere in this newsletter. She was an enthusiatic Loop researcher and correspondent. We will miss her contributions. This issue of the newsletter is dedicated to her memory. ------ Many of you have sent in family group sheets for Loop descendants who do not have the name Loop. I am glad to have them in my archives. I want to make sure you understand why I do not publish any of these. Obviously I consider female ancestral lines to be important. After all, my Loop line starts with my mother's father's mother. It is my intention, however, to keep this newsletter sharply focused on ancestors whose family name was Loop. I may publish group sheets for families where the wife's maiden name was Loop, but that is as far as I will likely go. You will note that I frequently publish new family group sheets for ancestors whose family group sheets have already appeared in previous issues of the newsletter. I do this when there is significant new information about that ancestor's family. The most recent version should be the most up to date. For example, note the new information in the family group sheet for Peter Loop, Jr., which appears in this issue. I'm happy to report that almost all of you decided to re-subscribe for 1985. We had two or three drop-outs and two new subscribers, so our numbers are about the same. Thanks for your support. You will notice that I have started using a copyright line for this newsletter. This is because of recommendations in Robin Hilborn's article in the May-June Genealogical Helper on running a family newsletter. But please feel free to copy any material in this newsletter for the purposes of your genealogical research. In general, if you aren't going to make any money from the material, then go ahead and copy it. c Victor L. Bennison, 1985 ****************************** ARTICLE ********************************* "HISTORICAL STORIES ABOUT LOOP FAMILY" an article in the Cortland Standard of August 20, 1931 [submitted by Joanne Ellis] True Tales of Early Freetown Settlers Told at Recent Reunion - The recent annual reunion of the Loop family, held with Mr. and Mrs. A. M. Loop of Groton, brought out several facts of historical interest to Cortland county residents. This family has been engaged in preparing the data for a book on family genealogy for several years and the work is now nearing completion. It started on the basis of eight Loop soldiers and officers in the American Revolution of 1776, with at least two others of the family whose spelling of the family name bore a typical variation from the present accepted form; also from records collected by the late L. M. Loope of Cortland about 40 years ago. The reunion was attended by about 125, more than half of whom were visitors from a distance, called to the gathering by an interest in a common ancestry. Seven from the Eldred, Pa., oil region were present including Floyd A. Loop of Bolivia and Mr. and Mrs. Lewis Loop of Eldred. The latter is operating 29 oil wells on his farm of 200 acres and his grandfather was one of the pioneers in that well-known oil region, having more than 200 wells on his farm. This branch of the family traces to Henry Loop of northern Vermont, who was born 1790 just across Lake George from where Henry Loop, an ensign in Washington's army, had lived for some years. Another guest was Edward Sumner Loop of Syracuse and his sister, with their families, who are descendants of Lieut. Peter Loop of the Revolution. Story of Hannah Loop - Of particular interest to Cortland county is the story related by Edgar P. Watrous of Groton, father of Mayor Dent P. Watrous of that willage, about his grandmother, Hannah Loop, who was born Oct. 15, 1797, and who became the wife of Judge Walton Sweetland. Judge Sweetland for 50 years or more, lived in Freetown, and was for some years, in the period preceding 1850, prominent in legal circles in his adopted county. In 1844 he was appointed associate county judge, which office he held for some years. Judge Sweetland was a native of Granville Conn., coming to Freetown in 1814 and settling on lot 22, which afterwards called the Tripp farm. He married Hannah Loop in 1817. He was a farmer until 1838 and then engaged in the mercantile business and legal activities during the remainder of his life. Hannah Loop Sweetland was the daughter of John Loop, third son of Ensign Henry Loop of the Revolution. When she was 12 years of age, or in 1809, with her father and stepmother, she emigrated from the eastern part of New York State. Stopping first at German, Chenango county for two or three years. The family story is that John Loop, a manufacturer in an eastern county, had met with financial reverses, also his first wife, Polly Eggleston, had died, leaving two daughters, Mary, who was born in 1795, and Hannah, born Oct. 15, 1797. He had remarried, the second wife being Avis Fish or Fisher. When the family came to this section they had their belongings in two covered wagons. The first was drawn by horses and in it rode Avis Fisher Loop and her young child, Polly, born May 6, 1810. Polly married Samuel Conger of Freetown. The second wagon, hauled by an ox team, was driven by Hannah. After the birth of Avis Loop Wayle, in German, the family came on to Freetown. The first home here was a log cabin, as were all the homes of that date. The story runs that for a time John Loop returned each year to his former home to earn money, which was a scarce commodity in Cortland county then. One time when Hannah had kept the home for weeks alone, late one evening the latch string was pulled, and in stalked four huge indians. In sign language they asked for food and young Hannah built a big fire in the fireplace and prepared a meal for them. That night they slept in a circle on the floor of the cabin. In the morning Hannah prepared them another meal, when they left, leaving her and the home all unharmed, but with a much depleted larder. A kindly and gifted neighbor woman, Mrs. Fuller, taught Hannah all the housewifely arts of the day. At one time, when her parents were absent in the east some months, Hannah spun and wove the material for a new linsey- woolsey suit for her father, and cut and made the garments. When he returned he put the suit on and was greatly pleased with his daughter's industry and ability. He said, "Hannah, you have done so well that I now want to do something for you. What can I do to please you?" To this Hannah replied that in his long absence she had become hungry for meat. So he shouldered his gun and went out for a deer, wearing the new suit. He shot a large buck, wounding but not killing it. The buck charged him, and he dodged behind a small maple tree, grasping the horns of the buck with each hand, with the tree between them. In his dying struggle the deer fought desperately, his tiny sharp hoofs cutting the front of the new suit in many places. Blood poured onto the suit from the deer's wounds and from cuts in Mr. Loop's face, so that when he reached home with the buck on his shoulder, he was a frightful spectacle. However, the meat was enjoyed and Hannah washed the suit and mended the many holes in it, and the incident became a familiar story to later generations. E. D. Watrous, in his home in Park Street, Groton, has mounted as the central brick, hard and black from years of use, from his great grand- mother Hannah's old out of doors bake oven, found at the site of the old home in Freetown. This family is one of many driven to America in the early 1700's by the Huguenot persecutions. About 80 villages were burned in the dead of winter in the Palatinate ruled by the Count of Weld, and thousands of their inhabitants, the most prosperous and peaceable in all Europe, were forced to flee to America, some stopping in England for the winter. Family tradition has it that great kegs of silver and valuables were abandoned on the wharf, as the terribly overcrowded ship did not permit of their removal. Livingston Manor was the early home of the family and hundreds of their neighbors who came with them. Then, because Govenor Hunter delayed unduly in giving them a proper title to their lands, they left this section, going north to Schoharie. Ensign Henry Loop's father, John, is said to have spent his later days in Stone arabia, or the Mohawk Flats, where many of their nationality were, and where others of his descendants came from when they settled in Clay, and Salina, Onondaga county. Ensign Henry Loop is said to have settled for a time in Rensselaerwyck, a huge area just south of Albany, on the east side of the Hudson, owned by Killian Van Rensselaer, patroon. He had a lease of land here at a rental of one cow per year, for "as long as timber grows or water flows," a typical lease of that day. However, he became dissatisfied and moved to Stillwater, his farm lying so near the scene of the second battle of Saratoga that it had to be evacuated very hurriedly with all sheep, cattle and family belongings on the day of that battle. John Loop, later of Freetown (who was an ancestor of Dr. A. M. Loope of this city, also of both Mr. and Mrs. John Loop and the latter's brothers, Frank and Dr. Clarence Loop of Cazenovia) was then seven years, eight months of age and to his death distinctly remembered bringing up the rear, when the family moved out of this area, on the back of an old family horse. John's second wife, Avis Fisher, was two years old at the time of this battle. Her family lived 16 miles from the scene of the battle, and her mother died the day of this battle for lack of medical attention, the surgeons all being busy at the scene of the battle. Little Avis was brought up by her grandfather, John Fish, or Fisher, who in 1800 moved to Cincinattus. His son, Ephraim Fisher, was the first man to represent Cortland county at Albany in 1810. He and his grandfather it is said, built the first grist mill at Cincinnatus. War Record of Henry Loop - After the battle of Saratoga Henry Loop settled in the town of Fairfield, Queensbury township, near Lake George, where they remained for 20 or more years. Avis Loop Wayle, who died in 1904, at the age of 92 years, well remembered her grandfather, Ensign Henry Loop, and his visits to his son in Freetown at a very advanced age. He was said to have fought in four wars, including the French and Indian War. He enlisted in 1760, the military records speaking of him at this time as "a blonde lad of 20, from Fishkill." He was captured by the English in the battle of Skenesborough, three years after the battle of Saratoga, and taken prisoner to Quebec, being released Nov. 24, 1782. While a prisoner in Canada he acted a superintendent of a gentleman's estate at Green Bay, and was given by his employer a pony to ride home on, when released, also six ruffled shirts. He received as his land bounty grant from the government, a piece of pine timberland in Jessup's Patent. Others of his descendants here include A. H. Loope of Cuyler, Mrs. Lenora Freeman of Cortland, and Mrs. E. G. Feint of Dryden. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VITAL DATA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. I stopped recently in North Hillsdale, NY, to make a pilgrimage to the graves of Capt. Peter Loop and his family. The stones are generally in very good condition, which means they can still be read without too much difficulty. Capt. Peter's stone is in particularly good shape. I photographed all the stones and copied all the inscriptions. The actual inscriptions differ from all published versions I've found. The most exciting discovery, however, was the stone for a Loop buried in the cemetery that no one else seems to have found before - Sarah J. Loop. She is almost certainly the daughter of David Loop, Capt. Peter's son. The stones are in three places in the cemetery. The main group is at the bottom of the cemetery hill, about the third row from the church and consists of the following eight stones in a single row in this order proceeding up the hill: (1) Erected (2) In (3) In in Memory of Memory of Memory of John C. Loop Capt Peter Loop M. Prudence wife son of who Died Oct of Capt Peter Loop Henry & 20th 1824. Aged who died Louise Loop 101 years Oct 27, 1828 who died aged 89 yrs April 25th 1807 Aged 2 years 3 months & 11 days (4) In (5) Peter D Loop (6) David Loop Memory of died died Mrs. Louise wife of Dec 27, 1858 Oct 29 1841 Henry Loop, Esqr aged 62 yrs aged 84 yrs who died Sept 6 1829 aged 55 yrs (7) Annie D (8) Charlotte A. Loop wife of died David Loop March 21 1888 died AE 82 Sept 17, 1853 Rest aged 76 Dearest mother thou hast left us And thy loss we deeply feel But tis God that hath bereft us He can all our sorrows heal The second group are all on one stone, an obelisk, farther up the hill and with the following inscriptions: (side one) (side two) (side three) George H. Loop Henry Loop Henry A. Loop 1809 - 1891 born 1831 - 1895 June 10, 1779 "until he came" Angelica Downing died his wife Aug. 13, 1868 Jenneete Harrison 1808 - 1897 his wife 1840 - 1909 The third group, and my new discovery, is a single Loop on the stone of Nehemiah Shutts. The stone, an obelisk farther up the hill from the second group, contains the following inscriptions: (side one) (side two) (side three) Nehemiah Shutts Sarah J. Loop [two or three of their 1806 - 1901 wife of Nehemiah Shutts children; for some died reason I didn't May 4, 1890 photograph or aged 82 transcribe it] 2. From: 10,000 Vital Records of Western New York, by Fred Q. Bowman, 1985: 5409 Loop, Amos m Cynthia Peck in Ontario, Wayne Co. (3-12/26/27) [i.e., in the Geneva Gazette of 26 DEC 1827] 5410 Loop, Hector of Elmira m Delina Cummings of Allen in Nunda, Alleg. Co. (3-12/7/25) [i.e., in the Geneva Gazette of 7 DEC 1827] 5411 Loop, Henry m Minerva Calkins in Cohocton (3-11/12/23) [i.e., the Geneva Gazette of 12 NOV 1823] 5412 Loop, James L. of Avoca m. 8/6/35 Permelia Stevens of Almond in A [i.e., in Almond] (2-8/12) [i.e., Steuben Farmers Advocate or 12 AUG 1835] 5413 Loop, Mary, inf ch of Christian, d in Elmira (3-9/17/28) [i.e., in the Geneva Gazette of 17 SEP 1828] [Who is this Hector Loop?] ?????????????????????????????? QUERIES ????????????????????????????????? Please send responses to queries to the Loop Scoop. I will relay them to the person asking the question. 1. Henry H. Loop was born in New York between 1827 and 1836. He does not show up in Chautauqua County until the 1855 census of that county. There he is listed as the adopted son of Nicolas Thum and his county of birth is listed as unknown. He married Luana Marsh and lived in Chautauqua County until his death in 1911. On his death certificate his father is listed as John Loop. No mother is listed. Questions: Where was he born? Who were his parents? - Vick Bennison 2. Family info indicates father of Peter H. Loop b. 1766/7 d. 1855 Sandusky Co., OH, was Peter Loop Sr. b. 1743 Schoharie, NY, d. 1843 Woodstock, IL. Other info places Peter H. as the son of Ensign Henry Loop. Has anyone found records of a Schoharie NY Peter Loop, of a Peter Loop dying or buried at Woodstock (McHenry County) IL, or a marriage record of Ensign Henry's son Peter? My Peter Loop married Rebecca Gilbert, supposedly in 1790 at Schoharie, NY, and his tombstone has Peter Loop, JR. 1766 - 1855. - Joanne Ellis 3. I am seeking the parents of Jane Loop who married Jonathan Andrus (Andrews) of New York. Their child, Polly Andrews, born 3 APR 1791, died 17 DEC 1872 at Windsor, NY, she having married Ezra Barton on 28 NOV 1808 in Broome County, NY. Is there proof that she is the daughter of Peter Loop and Couysa Springer? - Dee Merritt 4. [Editor's note: I don't understand the following querie, as it is written. It seems to answer its own question. But I will publish it here as received. Perhaps the submitter will wish to reword it later.] I am searching for the father of Almond H. Loop born in New York to Henry and Amy (Dikeman) Loop on 27 February 1828. His mother married William Hooker. In the 1850 census of Bradford Township, McKean County, PA there were nine children including Almond living in the William Hooker household. According to obituaries I have read they all moved to Manchester, Delaware County, Iowa in 1864. Almond was my great- grandfather. - Vola Carter +++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS +++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Obituary from the Napa Register, Napa, California, Monday, May 13, 1985: Rosalie Hamilton, 54, died Sunday at Queen of the Valley Hospital. Mrs. Hamilton was born May 9, 1931, in San Francisco where she attended elementary and junior high schools there, graduating from Santa Rosa High School. She attended Mt. Zion School of Nursing, graduating in 1952 and became a registered nurse. She attended the San Francisco State University and graduated with honors in 1955 with a bachelor of nursing education degree. She married her husband, Willard Ray Hamilton, in August of 1956 in San Francisco and they moved to Napa in April of 1958. She worked as a registered nurse in pediatrics at Mt. Zion Medical Center and as nurse in charge of the newborn nursery of French Hospital in San Francisco. She also worked in general nursing at Queen of the Valley Hospital in the early 1960s. She enjoyed music, reading and writing. She attended Napa Valley College exploratory classes and was a published author in the corporate magazine and film magazines. She was a member of St. Mary's Episcopal Church, Napa High School Band Boosters Club, a charter member of Napa Genealogical and Biographical Society and Napa Autobiographical Club. She was a former member of St. Mary's Episcopal Altar Guild and Napa Valley Choral Society. She is survived by her husband Willard Ray of Napa; two sons Ward Richard and Scott William both of Napa; one daughter, Laura Jean of Napa; and her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Jake Loop of San Francisco. Friends may call at Claffey and Rota Funeral Home, 1975 Main St. on Wednesday from 9 a.m. until 12 noon. A graveside service will be held on Wednesday afternoon. A memorial funeral service will be held on Thursday at 7 p.m. at St. Mary's Episcopal Church. The family suggests contributions to Boy Scouts of America, Silverado Area Council; The Greater Napa Kiwanis Foundation; or a charity of the donor's choice. 2. Recent obituary - H. Milford Loop, Past Otto Area Civic Leader, Dies. Prentisvale, Pa. - H. Milford Loop, 91, of Prentisvale died Saturday (April 27, 1985) in Olean (N.Y.) General Hospital. Born Sept. 7, 1893, in Eldred, he was a son of Warren M. and Emily Jack Loop. On April 10, 1917, in Bradford, he married the former Mary Louise Stuart, who died Sept. 4, 1980. Mr. Loop attended school in Prentisvale, and for more than 50 years he was a drilling contractor and oil producer with Pollock and Loop Brothers of Eldred. ... Surviving are a son, Milford Stuart Loop of Irvine, Calif.; two daughters, Mrs. James (Helen) Minnich of Downey, Calif., and Mrs. Virginia M. Huffman of Westchester; eight grandchildren; 12 great-grandchildren; and several nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by a daughter, Merle Emily Loop, in 1921, and a brother Lewis F. Loop. ... funeral... will be held Tuesday (April 30, 1985) at 2:30 p.m... Burial will be in Lamphier Cemetery, Eldred. 3. I meant to comment in the last issue about the christening date given previously for Peter Loop, Jr. You will notice that the date was removed from the family group sheet of Capt. Peter Loop published in the March, '85, issue. I believe the date George Capes sent me was for Peter Cooper, the son of Martin Cooper and Elizabeth (Loop) Cooper, and not for Peter Loop, Jr. I have therefore removed it from the family group sheet. 4. Ross Roby - Would you send me the 24 other sheets that Helmut Teibach sent you? I'd like to have the info even if the families never emigrated. I'm assuming the sheets contain information from the period 1650 to 1750, or thereabouts. 5. Mary Jo Kubie writes: Has anyone extracted the Loop names listed in Canadian census records? Would any Loop Scoop readers have access to a library with an index to the 1851 Ontaria census? Has any Loop researcher extracted the Loop names from the Vermont records? [Ed. I have. Most all of them are listed in Philyer Loop's family group sheet. There are some that are for Philyer's grandchildren that I haven't published yet. There is only one other that I found that was not for Philyer's family. It is for the marriage of Andrew J. Loop, age 28, a farmer from Queensbury, NY, son of Benjamin Loop, to Catherine O'Conner, resident of East Wallingford, VT, on 18 OCT 1865. I suspect this Benjamin is the son of Ensign Henry's son Andrew, but I can't prove it.] Where did you get the hospital records for Ira D. Loop? [Ed. I thought I got them from you. I normally write down, on the backs of incoming material, the name of the person who sent it to me, but failed to do it with those records. Maybe Elmer sent them to me, I really don't know.] By the way, Mary Jo, in your letter you said you were enclosing a photo of Nathaniel Harrison Loop. There was no photo enclosed, however. I'd like very much to have it. Thanks. 6. Lora Carter, could you get that picture of William Ferris Loop copied for me? I'd like to run it alongside the picture of Eliza Loop Vinton that you already sent me. I'd like a 3 1/2 by 5 inch copy, like the one you sent of his sister. 7. Keith Loop, the picture you sent or the Henry Loop (son of Joseph Marsh Loop) family outside their Indiana homestead is wonderful. Do you have the original? If you do, I'd like to have a photographic copy of it. Could you contact a professional photographer in your area and see if he could make a copy for you? If it would cost too much let me know and I will let you know if I want to pay for it myself. I'd like an 8 by 10 inch copy of that picture and a 3 1/2 by 5 inch copy of the portrait of Mary (Fisher) (Loop) Mast. I will wait to publish either picture until I hear from you about the copies. The xeroxes you sent may not turn out too well if I try to copy them again. 8. Wild Speculation: Of all the male children of Capt. Peter Loop, the only two we lose track of are Nathaniel, born 1776, and Benjamin, born 1781. I suspect Benjamin went west, because of the story that some of Peter's younger children went to Iowa. There is a Benjamin in Edgar County Illinois in the 1850 census. Perhaps that is he. I have not dug out the census record to check the age and place of birth. Nathaniel disappears altogether. He does not appear in any of the censuses, anywhere. I speculate he went to Canada and is the progenitor of the Canadian Loops, in particular Ira D. Loop, who named a child Nathaniel Harrison Loop. The story about the Canadian Loops being of French origin (from "de Loupe") is dubious. I heard that same story about my Loops when I first started looking into my Loop ancestors and it turned out to be totally inaccurate. 9. Descendants of Ludwig Loop should note the family group sheet for Johann Henrich Lupp, Ludwig's father. This is the first family group sheet that I've published for a Loop who was never in America. 10. If any of you are planning to be in Syracuse, NY, any time soon, I can give you a Loop errand to do. There is a small cemetery near Clay, NY, that may have Loops buried in it. The cemetery is the Morgan Cemetery, which is near the intersection of Morgan Road and Wetzel Road. You would have to ask someone in Clay where to find those roads. I looked in the big cemetery in Clay on a recent trip, but didn't find any Loops. I later found out about the smaller Morgan Cemetery. 11. Letter from Amel Loop: One daughter of John was left out [of your chart]. Her name was Ida. The children of the first marriage were born near Danville Illinois, Vermilion Co., Ill. Of interest: When my father was about 18, a family group of 10 was taken [photo?], then they went to a farm scale and were weighed. The ten weighed exactly 2000 pounds, one ton. About Ida Loop - she was of the second marriage of John Loop. She was born on a farm Near Metcalf, Ill. I don't know the date. [Ida's parents would be John Loop and Sarah Nichells.]